Michelle Tanner is an Australian multi-salon owner, business coach and international speaker based in Switzerland. Driven by an appetite for learning, problem-solving and building better systems, she’s turned lessons from growing her own businesses — from profitability and team development to leadership and life in and out from behind the chair — into tools to help other owners build stronger, more sustainable businesses.
Through the lens of her ambition and evolution as a business owner, this unfiltered, meandering conversation, underpinned by an understanding that every “yes” has a cost, explores what it means to build a business in service of the life you want. A business that can eventually carry you, rather than one you have to keep carrying.
Connect with Michelle Tanner
Learn more about Tanner Consulting: https://michelletannerconsulting.com/
Connect with Michelle on Instagram @michelle_tanner_consult and check out her podcast, The Shift (on pause indefinitely, but still available on all podcast platforms)!
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[337] When Phorest announced the 2027 Summit earlier this year, it marked a major shift for the brand: next January 24th and 25th, the flagship event moves from its long-time home in Dublin to the breathtaking landscapes of Killarney, County Kerry.
Formerly known as the Salon Owners Summit, the transition to the Phorest Summit marks a milestone in the event’s identity, reflecting the inclusive community Phorest serves and bringing together hair, beauty, and clinic professionals under one unified banner of innovation.
Both a look back and a look at what's next, this episode revisits the event's origin story, all the while featuring stories from the people who've shaped it along the way.
Learn more about the Phorest Summit & secure your tickets: https://www.phorestsummit.com/
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In this second (and final) bonus episode from the Salon Owners Summit 2026, more on-the-floor reactions from salon, spa, and clinic owners attending the event, an overview recap of the 2026 lineup and a candid conversation with Davina Devine, one of Ireland’s most recognizable drag queens and cabaret showgirls (@davina.devine on Instagram).
Briefly stepping away from her hosting and emcee duties of the day, the discussion explored Davina's flavour of drag, how she goes about warming up a crowd, and her relationship to the industry.
For more about Davina Devine and to inquire about bookings, click here.
For her podcast, Petty Little Things, click here.
Learn more about the Phorest Summit & secure your tickets for 2027: https://www.phorestsummit.com/
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[327] You’re booked and busy; what every business owner wants. But has over-functioning ever felt safer (or at the very least more familiar) than to say, “I feel like I’m drowning”? If the answer is yes, you’re not alone. In fact, Heather Harris — nationally recognised stylist, salon owner, business leader, and celebrated speaker — knows this all too well.
This week’s conversation focuses on delegation. At its heart, though, it focuses on the emotional experience of the shifts you are forced to make when you start delegating: 
Renegotiating with yourself what success actually looks like
Letting go of that part of your identity that ties success and/or value to how much you output
Shifting from being an owner-operator to becoming a CEO
Shifting from being a firefighter to becoming an architect in your business
Because at the end of the day, delegation is an identity renegotiation, and it’s about choosing where your care actually belongs. As the Founder/CEO of Spark Pro Global—an agency providing trained executive assistants—Heather’s here to tell you that you can, in fact, build a business that doesn’t require you to lose yourself in the process.
To avail of the complimentary consultation to implement strategic delegation in your salon, graciously offered by Heather, visit Alchemy Salon Consulting and leave a note in the form saying you heard about it through the PhorestFM podcast!
Otherwise, learn more about Spark Pro Global / Spark Pro Salon, listen to Heather's podcast here, and connect with her on Instagram @heather.tantrumsalon @sparkproglobal
Click here to read Brittany Dennison's "Delegate to Elevate" blog, and here for the "10 PhorestFM Podcast Conversations That Quietly Said the Loudest Things"
Learn more about the Phorest Summit & secure your tickets for 2027: https://www.phorestsummit.com/
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Calvin Stovall, customer experience and leadership keynote speaker, joins the show live from the Salon Owners Summit 2026, shortly after his main-stage talk on the art of the 'WOW' experience.
In this conversation, Calvin shares the story behind his own “why,” how his book Hidden Hospitality: Untold Stories of Black Hotel, Motel, and Resort Owners from the Pioneer Days to the Civil Rights Era came to be, and connects lessons from historic Black hoteliers to practical customer experience and leadership principles. Plus, on-the-floor reactions from salon, spa and clinic owners attending the event, and a look ahead to the Phorest Summit 2027.
Connect with Calvin Stovall on Instagram @iconicspeaker
Learn more about the Phorest Summit & secure your tickets for 2027: https://www.phorestsummit.com/
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[325] In 2024, Qnity’s research arm, the Qnity Institute, conducted a study. At the heart of it was one core question: ‘What does a financially successful salon look like?’
In this episode, Tom Kuhn, CEO of Qnity—an organisation offering education and tools for economic empowerment in the beauty industry—shares findings and insights from the subsequent 50-page report, published in June 2025. The ‘2024 Salon P&L Benchmark Study’ set out to paint a clearer picture of the industry, establish reliable benchmarks, and deliver actionable insights that could help improve profitability, and this conversation aims to do the same, equipping salon owners with prompts for reflection or conversation starters about the financial health of their own business going into 2026.
Find out more about Qnity, and the Qnity Institute.
To participate in the 2025 version of the study, click here.
Follow Tom Kuhn on Instagram: @tomhkuhn
Learn more about the Salon Owners Summit: https://www.salonownersummit.com/
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In this episode, keynote speaker, business coach, and educator Lance Courtney explores what salon leadership looks like in an era shaped by Gen Z, shifting values, and rapid cultural change. Drawing on themes from his Salon Owners Summit 2026 workshop and blending real-world salon examples with coaching insight, he takes an educational “what works, what doesn’t work, and what works better” approach to challenging leadership styles.
If you're navigating generational shifts within your team or seeking guidance on how to evolve your leadership style without compromising your authentic self, this conversation offers a modern perspective on leadership and provides valuable self-reflective prompts to prepare for the new year.
Connect with Lance Courtney on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lancecourtney
Learn more about the Salon Owners Summit & explore the full lineup and agenda: https://www.salonownersummit.com/tickets
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[320] When approached with intention, leaning into happiness can become a powerful tool for personal and professional growth. In this episode, Heather Bagby (@heatherbagby on Instagram) — the visionary behind the Summit Salon Business Centre’s Happiness Project and the recently announced keynote speaker for the Salon Owners Summit 2026 — reframes happiness as hard work with high rewards.
Known to inspire audiences and organizations to embrace the journey toward a more joyful and successful workplace, Heather joins the PhorestFM podcast for a conversation blending personal stories, actionable strategies, and bold ideas that connect happiness with leadership, resilience and personal growth.
Find out more about the Summit Salon Business Centre here: https://www.summitsalon.com
Secure your Salon Owners Summit tickets here: https://www.salonownersummit.com/tickets
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Ryan Power — UK-based award-winning salon coach and mentor — joins podcast host Alex Bélisle-Springer after his workshop at the Salon Owners Summit 2025 for a 5-year catch-up highlighting the vital role of connection, community and solidarity in the industry.
Get your tickets to the next Salon Owners Summit now: https://www.salonownersummit.com/tickets
Learn more about Ryan Power: https://salonology.uk/
@itsryanpower on Instagram
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[307] In an episode packed with both insights & anecdotal examples, Ross Loveland (@trueprofitsalons) shares what true financial transformation looks like (hint: there's a 5-pillar framework for it), dispels common financial myths that hold salon owners back and speaks to the mindset shifts required to unlocking sustainable growth and success.
Ross is a salon financial strategist and the founder of True Profit Salons, providing financial coaching and bookkeeping services to salons and spas, helping them become more profitable, take home more money, and achieve financial freedom.
Find out more about True Profit Salons here, and book your Financial Clarity Assessment at 50% off with the code "PhorestFM"
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Daniel Mason-Jones — Celebrity Stylist and Motivational Speaker — joins podcast host Alex Bélisle-Springer after his keynote at the Salon Owners Summit 2025. They discuss overcoming insecurity, the intrinsic link between authenticity and stepping into your power, belonging and uplifting others. Plus, exclusive moments from the event!
Get your tickets to the next Salon Owners Summit now: https://www.salonownersummit.com/tickets
Learn more about Daniel Mason-Jones: https://www.danielmasonjones.com/
@danielmasonjones on Instagram
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[306] In 2022, a report by McKinsey & Company estimated addressing racial inequity in the beauty industry to be a $2.6 billion opportunity. Two years later, despite a more-than-welcome surge in conversations around diversity, equity and inclusion, Black hair and beauty professionals, entrepreneurs and consumers still face significant barriers.
Breaking these barriers will require us to redefine excellence and unlearn ingrained practices fueled by a commitment to serving all communities—especially those historically underrepresented.
This conversation — recorded live at the Salon Owners Summit 2025 — draws on the experiences and success stories of leaders and panelists Winnie Awa, Dija Ayodele, Tendai Moyo, and Keya Neal. It challenges the current white-centric standards of the beauty industry, explores the influence of Black culture within this sector, and emphasizes the urgent need for inclusivity, innovation, ethical practices, and investment in Black communities.
Panelists:
Winnie Awa (@winnieawa on Instagram), Founder/CEO of Carra
Dija Ayodele (@dija_ayodele on Instagram), Founder of West Room Aesthetics & Black Skin Directory
Tendai Moyo (@vtmoyo on Instagram), Founder/CEO of Ruka Hair
Keya Neal (@keyaartistically on Instagram), Founder of Kolour Kulture & Texture VS Race, Color Educator, DEI Consultant
Access the 'Breaking Barriers' worksheet and all the other links mentioned throughout the episode.
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Ken Hughes — Leading Consumer Behaviouralist, The King of Customer Experience — joins podcast host Alex Bélisle-Springer after his keynote at the Salon Owners Summit 2025 to further discuss how focusing on authenticity, connection and relationship building in your salon, spa, or clinic business can give you a clear advantage over your competitors. Plus, exclusive moments from the event!
Get your tickets to the next Salon Owners Summit now: https://www.salonownersummit.com/tickets
Learn more about Ken Hughes: https://www.kenhughes.info/
@kenhughesie
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[305] PhorestFM Season 9 is officially underway!
This first episode of 2025, featuring Keya Neal (@keyaartistically), is a rich tapestry of wisdom that underscores the multifaceted nature of authenticity, its power for growth and fulfillment, and the inevitable costs associated with honoring the full spectrum of our identities amidst societal expectations. If you ever needed a reminder that everything you need is within, this is it.
Keya is the Founder of Kolour Kulture and Texture VS Race, a Color Educator and DEI Consultant. Find out more about Texture VS Race here.
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[304] Kati Whitledge (@katiwhitledge on Instagram), speaker, podcaster, and the Founder and CEO of mya, is a marketing guru for the beauty and wellness industry who equips owners with no-fluff business and marketing strategies.
She’s here to change how you are supported in your business with, among many things, mya, a client recruitment and marketing software for the beauty industry, and this episode serves as a reflection on innovation, on founding and running a business, as well as added depth and context to both Kati’s keynote and her why.
Links:
Learn more about mya, follow the brand on Instagram
Listen to Kati's podcast, Beyond The Technique
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